Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

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Re: Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

Post#41 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:44 pm

Thank you, gents.
One thing I love is, the metal is $15-$20 a pound. So practice, play, experimentation, mistakes, etc doesn't cost an arm and a leg. The other thing I love about bronze is it feels much more alive and creative than precious metal.
And the market I'm after is more about look than commodity prices.
I've always found that valuing my work by putting it on a scale to be repulsive and professionally unacceptable. Ever seen anybody weigh a painting or sculpture to determine its value or interest?
The colors remind me of where I grew up on a barrier island south of Cape Canaveral, north of Sebastian Inlet. So I see the colors of the Atlantic ocean (the Gulf Stream is often close enough to see), Indian River Lagoon and all the metals that come in contact with them.
These are the first attempts at patinas.
Lots to learn, lots of fun to be had.
Many thanks to all the support from Forum members and B9 staff.

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Re: Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

Post#42 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:45 pm

I agree bronze is pretty nice to cast and as you mentioned very affordable.

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Post#43 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:30 pm

Bronze is an art metal.
I make stuff that sells as jewelry, but I'm not a jeweler. I did that for decades and it didn't fit.
So I do sculptures and scale them to a wearable scale. So they are called jewelry.
But that's not what's in my head.
I see them as being 20-100 ft tall.
But that's a hard sell.
So the B9 solves that problem.

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Post#44 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:53 pm

Lol, that's great. I sell things as jewelry as well but I'm more of an engineer. I do CAD/CAM for waterjets, wire EDM and mills. Been doing that for like 22 years. The jewelry thing was started to fund a private pilot license.

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Post#45 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:33 am

That's cool. Fortunately, the world of jewelry is big enough to allow folks like you and I to nibble on their cookie.

I just had lunch with a jeweler friend that apprenticed in London. He's reset the Hope Diamond for the Smithsonian. He does mostly fabricated platinum work. With tons of diamonds. Because of the nature of the market, he has virtually no chance to step out of the elevated bubble he's in. So jewelry can also be very confining if one is not careful. When I was working with Tiffany, Cartier and all that crowd it came to feel like a gilded cage. Glad those days are long gone.
The bronze and craft jewelry is much more fun.
And aligns with what Marshall McLuhan said...."Art is anything you can get away with". Which I think is a pretty good way of putting it.

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Re: Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

Post#46 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:52 am

jljr99 wrote:The jewelry thing was started to fund a private pilot license.

8-)
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Re: Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

Post#47 » Thu May 05, 2016 11:50 am

Working on more patinas for an art show this weekend. Feeling more comfortable with them as I'm getting closer to being able to get a "look".
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Re: Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

Post#48 » Thu May 05, 2016 12:44 pm

Really love the color with the highlighted edges. Thanks again for sharing.

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Re: Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

Post#49 » Fri May 06, 2016 6:51 pm

Thank you, Robert.
Hopefully the folks walking by my space at the art show this weekend will agree.
And spring with some $$$$.
I'm taking 50+ one off examples. Plus silver and Crystalline Bronze.
As they say in Russia, "If we live, we will know."

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Post#50 » Mon May 23, 2016 11:21 am

Just got a studio shot of blue/green on black patina on cast bronze.
Need these shots to apply to more shows.
All my summer and fall shows have May 31 deadlines.
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Post#51 » Mon May 23, 2016 1:33 pm

Might be my favorite color yet. Congrats!

Do you mind my asking what u sell that one for. Make a nice gift for my wife. you can email me howlere@gmail.com

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Post#52 » Mon May 23, 2016 2:09 pm

Thank you. Will do, Robert.
When I face an interested party, I say "Think about what you are going to wear with it and where are you going to go?". The colors beg that. With the right textiles, in the right place, the patinas rock. Mix that up and they suck.
Simple as that.
I basically interview people before they buy them. They have to convince me its going to "work" for them.
I loathe buyer's remorse as ultimately, you make it on re orders not orders alone.
Got two emails in one day last week about making complimentary pieces for brides to wear to their wedding. They got how I go about matching my work with the person, the textiles, fashion and the event or setting.
Anything less and I'm just taking money from bipedal fish.

They are kind of sucking the air out of room with regard to my other pieces. Which is fine with me. They are fun to make with endless surprises.
I'll email you.

Attached is a blib I put together for a trunk show at the gallery owner's request.
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Re: Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

Post#53 » Mon May 23, 2016 9:20 pm

Thanks.

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Re: Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

Post#54 » Tue May 24, 2016 5:55 am

Now for a black background. This could work for a show application.
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Re: Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

Post#55 » Thu May 26, 2016 7:38 am

Awesome as usual. How do you get that blue patina and do you seal or coat it for longevity?

I didn't see you answer that but if you did I'll look back again.

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Re: Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

Post#56 » Thu May 26, 2016 7:54 am

Thank you.
The patinas are just chemistry. Various crystals dissolved in distilled water. There are zillions of formulas. You can buy pre mixed or make your own. I do both.
Different alloys give different colors as do different cleaning techniques prior to treatment. Acid/base stripping, electro stripping and sand blasting. I cast three alloys. I also use four different methods of applying the chemical mix. Lots of variables to play with. Temperature also plays a roll. The shape of the surface can be very significant and how it is dried and in what position.
This piece was first oxidized black, then two patinas were applied in succession.
Its pretty much lab work. Great fun. And if they suck, I just drop them back in the acid, strip and re do. No wasted castings.

I double top coat with a special exterior lacquer designed for patinas.

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Re: Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

Post#57 » Thu May 26, 2016 8:14 am

Thank you for clearing that up.

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Re: Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

Post#58 » Thu May 26, 2016 9:11 am

If it wasn't complicated, I wouldn't do it.
My knowledge and skills are about a .1 on a scale of 10. If that.
Fun is the primary feature I look for. If that's working, all the other stuff
takes care of itself. Eventually.

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Post#59 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:03 pm

Gold over Crystalline Bronze, so sit never tarnishes. The Italians I'm working with did a very good job of putting together a set up that lets me do this safely in house. Very user friendly. No deadly fumes, no acids, easy disposal. OK, its ten steps, 8-9 baths and the rectifier has to have voltage changed three times, but hey, if it was simple, I'd do something else. It's actually surprisingly straight forward. All the myths I've heard for decades about plating seem no longer to be true. Like my experience with setting up casting.
Changing the name of the round-ish one from Enneper Cage to Enneper Pumpkin. One sounds a little more friendly. Although for some of you, it can still be called Cage. The other one is Enneper Open.
Must keep the good professor's name in there.
Shipping as part of an order to an art museum tomorrow.

Approx size: Pumpkin about 15mm round, Open is 32mm long.
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Re: Differential Geometry Jewelry Models

Post#60 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:12 pm

Looks great Larry !
Are you plating copper nickel before gold or copper/Paladium for nickel free before gold?
If you are going gold right onto bronze, you may end up with the bronze leaching into the gold and causing a color change. That is why platers will usually do copper/nickel/ gold. Each is a barrier coat to stop the metals from leaching into each other.
If your not doing that, then lets hope the last coating you apply stops the color change.

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